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Hi,

You can read more background under Newcomers - Upside Down.

Long story short, great time together mostly, but her plate extremelyfull. She decides it's time to clean her plate and move on with her somewhat left behind career, cleaning me off the plate as well.

I've been DB'ing successfully for a couple of weeks and seem to see signs of it working. (I realize how short this is) Other than me sleeping on the couch we're having pretty normal daily interaction, especially around the kids, minus any affection (though there have been a few hugs in the last week, generated by us both).

I'm curious what other's have experienced regarding the following. She can be a very strong and independent woman (a reason I really love her). So having made her decision to leave after the school year is over to attempt to resurrect her career, she'd indicated it made her feel much better and she is working to get her plate cleaned off. I know I need to hold back and not push counseling or anything else for that matter. My fear is though that if she is thinking my lack of discussing it means we're moving forward with her plan, everything is fine, and she'll never show any interest in counseling to provide an opportunity for us to work on it. Does that make sense? Anyone with any experience to share on this?

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Well I will start out with this post and give you my standard welcoming post later.

Looks like you have two threads in newcomers
Here are the links

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...725#Post2196725

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...074#Post2198074

Here in MLC we try to stick with one thread until we get to 100 posts.

Then you can link them up.

TBH I did not read what was in newcomers and maybe it explains why you left the MBR.

My advice is that you should not have left the MBR.

You should not move out of the house.

If she wants to leave then that would be her decision.

Have some back bone and stand up for yourself.

At the same time you need to detach from her and give her space.

I understand you may think what I am saying is contradictory but it is not and it can be done.


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Welcome to this board.

The first thing you should do is be sure to read the Divorce Remedy book by MWD, Divorce Busting is also an excellent book.

Sorry you are here but you will meet some wonderful people here and get some great advice.

I have read a good deal of books on the subject and can give you some suggestions when you are ready.

I will give you a bunch of homework assignments to read.
This is my ultra brand new and improved list of links.

I would start with the going dark link.
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=50956#Post50956

The link for the resources:
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1539436

Stages of the LBS
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1964990&page=1

Doormat tactics
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...444#Post1942444

Standing vs leaving
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1966340&page=1

Why they run:
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=67406&page=1

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...6668#Post526668

Pursuit and Distance
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=714209

The Final Stages Withdrawal to Acceptance
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2074403&page=1

Now you have all the tools to read. Let us know how your doing and if you have any questions.

I suggest that you read the entire thread in the resources.
You can also pick out some people and read their whole story.

The stages of MLC are a template which can only be laid over an MLCer's experience retrospectively.
It's impossible to see the pattern until it has finished being laid or the crisis is complete.(nickel Cyrena).
So do not be too concerned where your MLC'er is in this process.
(Although my general guess is that they are in REPLAY)

Depression is the key to the whole thing and it is always present!

Believe none of what she says and 50% of what she does.

I would not ask her anything unless you can have no expectations.
Sometimes asking them questions will be thought of as pressure.
You do not want to do anything that can be thought of by your W as controlling or pressure.

Lets not worry about her. Lets work on you!
Start your homework assignments.
GAL.
Detach the single most important thing to DO.
Use the time that your W has given you as a gift to
start to work on yourself.

Knowledge is Power.


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Wow, thanks much for the lists, I will read them, and take strength I'm sure.

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I have been getting through much of the reading Cadet posted above, it is very googood, if you're on the forum and reading this, make note of every thing above there's lots of wisdom there.

Here's a question. It's amazing to me how much my W isn't herself. The irrational behaviour is quite mind boggling and hard to accept for someone I've known for 24+ years. Has anyone here ever experienced anyone going through this to "snap out of it" and begin working through things sooner than letting it run its course?

We went through dealing with an alcoholic brother. It was horrible and there was much irrationality there. My mother's therapist gave us some good advise: You cannot rationalize irrational behavior, don't try. With my W, it has helped going dim, but I'm realizing that it's extremely difficult, especially given the needed daily interaction around the kids. That's another topic.

DB'ing helps bring some of the rationality back, especially within yourself, but I have to admit I'm hoping for something a bit more miraculous.

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Hope for miracles (always). Be prepared for the long haul.


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M 25 yrs; T 31 yrs;bomb 8/15/06; moves out 7/18/08
D 18, D 14, S 12


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Good advice for sure.

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They don't snap out of it...they have to work through the entire process in order to come out the other end of the crisis, hopefully a better and more solid individual.

There have been times when a person or something can interrupt their crisis for a period of time. However, when this occurs, their crisis will be far worse than it was before being interrupted.

Keep in mind, they become the mirror image of themselves...whatever they were like pre-crisis, they will be the exact opposite. Oh, btw, they are operating on pure emotional energy and they do not think rationally. So, please do not try to rationalize w/them...you won't win.

Try to focus on yourself and your family. It's difficult when they first hop on the Mother Ship, but you will find a way to turn the focus back on to you.


Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to.
The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
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Snodderly speaks the truth. XH is going on 3 years of an interrupted MLC from 2002. Interrupted by the War in Iraq. We are now 20 months post bomb, and 6 months post D. I still rank up their with Bin Laden in his book of terrorists and madmen. Also the mirror image thing.

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Originally Posted By: punkin
Snodderly speaks the truth. XH is going on 3 years of an interrupted MLC from 2002. Interrupted by the War in Iraq. We are now 20 months post bomb, and 6 months post D. I still rank up their with Bin Laden in his book of terrorists and madmen. Also the mirror image thing.


Punkin,

Your response up there ^^^^^ is why you should not go anywhere

off of this board. I enjoy reading your posts!!!

WS

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