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His anger over the car is just stupid. Who knows why? But, that said, you shouldn't be the target, you helped him! I guess you could run up to Germany and get the part?

I'm glad both of your kids had a good day today! I thought your son would like the camp after he got into it! And your D sounds adorable!

Keep smiling, Kalni! I like smiling with you!

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Hey K,

I found your "I am not getting married again, ever" interesting!!! Because that was my first thought when I read what RTL wrote. I wondered how many of us at this moment in time could actually see ourselves getting married again?

For me, I don't even see myself getting a divorce. I think to get a divorce we would either need to be wanting to marry someone else or needing to do it for some kind of financial reason.

I look at it as I did this once.. and I thought I had chosen wisely.. I don't think I would ever trust my judgement to try this again.. especially now that I have a child to consider too.

What is your reasoning for never getting married again?

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PS.. so happy that everything is going much better with camp. And I feel you with the graduating.. it's crazy how fast they grow up!! I too have to go to all celebrations alone (even before the bomb) because my H is a workaholic.


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Originally Posted By: Kalni
...he has been yelling at me all these years for things I knew I had nothing to do with. But I was his wife THEN. I was supporting. I am nothing to him now, not even a friend. I don't owe him anything. He should be more careful. Period. (Back when he loved me, he would call me at work to yell at me for not being able to find a parking place..)

...I have been taking verbal abuse from him for a long time. He knows he is wrong, he admitts it. I don't care anymore. I deserve better from a total stranger, I wouldn't put up with this coming from a simple friend, why put up with it coming from him?

...Now if he is subconciously trying to push me away, he is very effective.
Kalni! See what you are saying? He is not trying to push you away, he is just being the same as he always was toward you? Its not deliberate? Or new behaviour? Its just him!?

Was this really what your R was like, because thats not acceptable? And yes, you wouldnt put up with it from a friend so why would you from him, then, or now? But.. what I see, is a man who has done NOTHING to sort out his own issues, his anger, his fear, all he has done is run away and bury his head in the sand. Thrown himself into work (he sounds like a workaholic from what you said, 2 jobs and working sometimes till 2am?), and possibly distracting himself with a dumb ow.

So why do you expect him to treat you differently? Hes done NO work on himself, he refused to go to MC, he wouldnt talk to the T or do any exercises, so it doesnt seem surprising to me that he is still yelling at you over things that frustrate HIM that are not your fault. He seems to lack self-awareness?

Plus, I agree with Forrest and RTL and whoeever else and that what I was trying to say earlier...if he wasnt connected to you at all, he wouldnt still be speaking to you like that. If he had let go, moved on, he would be polite but distant, not yell!?

I'm glad you are feeling better. And you most definetly do deserve more, life is unfair sometimes. But dont give up this week!?

Ali xxxxx


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Oh, I don't know... Maybe I will. I always wanted 3 kids so I may have to, but not anytime soon... Whatever... If this marriage fell appart, ANYTHING could happen!!


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"Back when he loved me, he would call me at work to yell at me for not being able to find a parking place... As if I had anything to do with it."

Seems he still loves you.

Nothing has changed.. We knew that!

Thanks for pointing it out.

"FG, you other thought was about the visa? I don't believe you."

That was just Woog being silly.

"BTW , he never called back to say "I am sorry"."

Do you really think you have to tell me Thanks? I am glad you do.. but even if you didn't.. it would not change anything.

Heck SmartCookie already told me she would like to hear some encouragement from me.. see I fail too. It's not something I always think about.. Its not meant to hurt you.

Again.. you crap on those closest to you.. I don't know why.

I have said the exact same thing about the stranger thing. To my Mom and Dad when I was separated.


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Yeah Ali.. Tell her!

Great minds really do think alike.


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Ali, this yelling issue he even said to a C that bothers him because when he is mad he is intentionally trying to hurt me with things he doesn't believe... And I would do other things that bothered him, so I consider that part of the dance, give & take, ying & yang... Now there is no give, why should I take? It is his normal self but I don't need to put up with him anymore, right...?

I am ok now. Over it. He will push it under the carpet as usual...


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I am just glad you are in a better mood!


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I am in a great mood. I don't know how that happenend. To be honest, you all helped. When I was listening to the song in the car "gimme a reason to stay here", I was talking to my H.
HE needs to give me GOOD reasons to still love him... That's my new attitude...LOL!!!


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Nothing wrong with that!


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