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P, I am here on the pity party express. Cutter, I am borrowing your style and posting lyrics:

They say misery loves company
We could start a company and make misery

Frustrated, Incorporated
Well I know just what you need
I might just have the thing
I know what you'd pay to see

Put me out of my misery
I'd do it for you, would you do it for me
We will always be busy making misery

We could build a factory and make misery
We'll create the cure; we made the disease

Frustrated, Incorporated
Frustrated, Incorporated
Well I know just what you need
I might just have the thing
I know what you'd pay to feel

Put me out of my misery
All you suicide kings and you drama queens
Forever after happily, making misery

Did you satisfy your greed, get what you need
Was it only envy, so empty

Frustrated, Incorporated
Frustrated, Incorporated

Frustrated, Incorporated (put me out of my misery)
Frustrated, Incorporated (I'd do it for you, would you do it for me)
Frustrated, Incorporated (forever after happily)
Frustrated, Incorporated (making misery)


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Originally Posted By: newmama
P, I am here on the pity party express.


And there was me thinking I was waiting at the doors to get off!

Anyway, thank you for the lyrics. I particularly liked:

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Frustrated, Incorporated (put me out of my misery)
Frustrated, Incorporated (I'd do it for you, would you do it for me)
Frustrated, Incorporated (forever after happily)
Frustrated, Incorporated (making misery)


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Oops, looks like you got off the train at the last stop (just in time for Christmas?) I will do my best to get off at the next one!


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Ohhhh, me tooooo.


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Hey P. Great new pictures. smile

Are you having a good day.

My nephew came over last night and we watched a star trek movie. Generations. I had a good night with him.

Take care.

And talk to you later today.


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Originally Posted By: P17

The second thing we discussed was what I want. I want to get rid of hope. Hope that the M can be recovered. I want to let go completely of the M and move on with my life. I see no hope for the M being continued. Bridges are being burned. W is doing things I never thought she was capable of. She is cold, heartless, uncaring, selfish and cowardly. That woman I don't love. The woman I did love has gone.


She cant undo what has be done. You have to ask yourself if cheating is a dealbreaker. I thought for sure there was no way I would stay with someone who cheated. But when it really happens to you all the rules change. How it impacts your finances, your child's life etc. all change the equation that once was just so simple. If cheating was a absolute dealbreaker for you then you wouldnt be posting on a message board aimed towards saving your marriage, would you?


Originally Posted By: P17

It was for revenge. I want W and OM to break up and for her to feel the way I feel. I want to be able to say I told you so, stick two fingers up and be vindicated that she was wrong for what she did. If I read W correctly (and I could be well off the mark) she is going out of her way to hurt me. The things she is doing, saying and posting on FB don't really make much sense to me other than to hurt me. This is a game, and without relaising it (and advising others not to do it) I'm playing it and rolling the dice too. I'm going out of my way to hurt her. This isn't right and simply cannot finish with any good results.


The one you trusted most in your life screwed you over. I think the thought of revenge is only natural. It is still very early in your situation but right now you have centered this whole experience about her. "I want her to feel how I feel", "What is she thinking", "How will she react"? That is why your goal now is to detach. She doesnt even know what she is thinking right now, so then how in the world are you supposed to figure it out when she cant? I hate to burst your bubble but I will come right out and say it, I dont think your wife is doing things to intentionally hurt you. I dont think your wife is giving you much thought at all right now. I think she is doing something that is so out of character for her that she is trying to justify why it is ok for "someone like her" to be doing "what she is doing".


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I still maintain the opinion that W has her head up her a$$ and it may never come out of there. However, if it does, I don't want to be around.

No doubt she isnt thinking right. Either are you. That is why you should be having no contact(or I think very little contact) with her. Try to enjoy your Christmas P17. Try to turn off your mind for a few days and just enjoy spending time with your little one.

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Originally Posted By: cutterbug
Hey P. Great new pictures. smile

Are you having a good day.


Yesterday was good. Night out with D's mum and her friend. Had a good time and for the first time in ages, was dancing!

How's things with you today - Xmas Eve and all that?


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Originally Posted By: Sakaro

She cant undo what has be done. You have to ask yourself if cheating is a dealbreaker. I thought for sure there was no way I would stay with someone who cheated. But when it really happens to you all the rules change. How it impacts your finances, your child's life etc. all change the equation that once was just so simple. If cheating was a absolute dealbreaker for you then you wouldnt be posting on a message board aimed towards saving your marriage, would you?


Cheating is not a dealbreaker for me at all. As you said I wouldn't be here posting otherwise. The dealbreaker is her erasure of the last 7 years of her life, me and D. That is the big dealbreaker but I am also coming to terms with why she has done this so maybe it won't be a dealbreaker after all.


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The one you trusted most in your life screwed you over. I think the thought of revenge is only natural. It is still very early in your situation but right now you have centered this whole experience about her. "I want her to feel how I feel", "What is she thinking", "How will she react"? That is why your goal now is to detach.


Other than the 'how will she react' (as I no longer care about that), you are correct. Everything has been centred on her - she is doing this and that, what is she doing etc. etc. etc.

I felt several times that I am detaching from her but I then fall back into again. I have felt for the last little while now I am detaching. Maybe it was my lo point last week that started it all. I don't know. Maybe this is just another episode and I'll 'attach' again. I'll just play it be ear, go with the flow, ride the wave ...

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She doesnt even know what she is thinking right now, so then how in the world are you supposed to figure it out when she cant?


I actually think she knows exactly what she is doing. I believe her head is up her a$$ but she acts with such cool and calm coldness that it's difficult to think she is not in control on the outside.

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I hate to burst your bubble but I will come right out and say it, I dont think your wife is doing things to intentionally hurt you. I dont think your wife is giving you much thought at all right now. I think she is doing something that is so out of character for her that she is trying to justify why it is ok for "someone like her" to be doing "what she is doing".


I think Sandi2 or Bluerain said something similar a while ago. Maybe she isn't doing anything to hurt me. Maybe she is just living her life. If she is doing that, and doesn't give me or D a second thought then I would rather she actually just left us both alone completely.

Originally Posted By: p17

No doubt she isnt thinking right. Either are you. That is why you should be having no contact(or I think very little contact) with her. Try to enjoy your Christmas P17. Try to turn off your mind for a few days and just enjoy spending time with your little one.


I don't think I am thinking clearly. I think I am thinking clearer. But still not clearly about a lot of things. No contact is still in place.

I am just back from an overnight away and my head was turned off - right up until we got back and there was a text from W to D's mum. See next post.

I will enjoy Xmas. I hope you and everybody else on here does too.


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Update.

Was on a night out last with D's mum and her friend for a final bit of shopping a meal and a few drinks. Went well. First time I've actually been out and up dancing in along time ...

Got back at 3am to a text from W to D's mum. It was along the lines of 'Ive emailed P and got no response. Can I drop off D's Xmas presents to you tomorrow morning - I am working at 11am'.

I was going to make the comment about 'no response' from me, but I've said this a thousand times that I told her I didn't want contact (and I haven't broken it) so she just isn't going to ever get that bit. She does want to drop them off at D's mums and not here.

Asked her today just to tell W that she can drop off presents. I will text W tomorrow, tell her D loved the present, thank her for it and wish her a Merry Christmas. That breaks NC but I think it is the right thing to do (which is what I am really trying to do just now - do the right thing and not act out of emotions). I won't be doing any more follow-up with her or getting involved in a conversation or anything else. One text. End of story.

I also have a card and present for W's best friend and her little boy. I will be dropping that off later today. Also the right thing to do.

I'm sorry we're all here at all and this forum is necessary but I'd rather be here with my sitch than on my own with it!

Anyway, Merry Christmas to everybody!

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Do not send that text.

Come at you with anger.
Come at you with sweetness.
Each one is to break contact.

Just ignore. That is the right thing to do.

No Contact is No Contact.

If needed tell IM it was a nice gift. Tell MIL it was a nice gift. Do not tell them to mention it. Just say it on passing.

One of them will tell WAS.

Message delivered. No Contact kept. You did the right thing.


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