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Update: W left voice mail last night

W: Hi, I noticed I forgot to pack s3's blanky. So sorry, I hope he's not throwing a tantrum (he wasn't) just use one of the girls' extras. Also, I'll be home all
night if they want to call and say goodnight."

I didn't return call as I received it late and turned my iPhone enter off on purpose to focus on my four kids.

Had great weekend with them. Took them swimming, birthday party, sleepover fun with daddy.

At drop off, w was once again upbeat and very nice. While I was getting son3 out of car seat, turned around and she was right there in
my face. "Hi, how are you. "Helped unpack and walked them to porch.

Very hard leavng when having them for weekend. Attached to them
and the 5 and 3 yr olds don't want to leave me and usually
cry, kick, scream and won't let go of me.

I want to say, "is this really worth the pan for them." but I
don't and keep my composure. Tonight, I cried when driving away as they were all waving. Soo fu^*+= hard man.


Yes Faith, I agree w/ all said. Thanks for the reminder. That is where I'm seeng the biggest improvement n myself; yes, I want her back back, however, I've come a long way on creating happiness. So, seriously WAW, take it or leave it!

I know I'm a great guy with a huge heart and loves life.


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It's really hard to look at your kids being in pain, and look at the person who could stop it .. and they won't.

But you're right - she knows it, even if she won't acknowledge it, and pointing it out will just fire her up.

((hugs))


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Originally Posted By: direction1
I cried when driving away as they were all waving. Soo fu^*+= hard man.


Only those of us who have been there have any idea how that comment is so up for the understatement of the year award...

Stay strong, man...

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Thanks for the empathy, KD.

Spoke with the kids last night before bed. Even thought I'm not there to tick them in at night, daily, I want them to hear my voice right before sleep..

Stopped at the 3 D's soccer camp this morning. Again, for them to know I am not and will not desert them. Love watching their smiles when thet realize I'm watchin' practice.

Talked with wife on phone briefly today about kids stuff, dentist, pediatrian stuff, etc.

Consistency was there again-very nice and courteous. From the above posts, w is either very happy being without me or is perhaps passed a demanding stage...for now. I can't control w, but her sudden change of behavior over the last few weeks has my attention to monitor, No bit!@y attitude.

Thanked her for spearheading the summer activities and told her nothing makes me happier to know my kids are having fun. She engaged in more dialogue (no relationship talk in two months)and I ended the convo..had to "go."


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I want to discuss a host of things about each of our kids with w and think in-person is best but don't want for her to think I'm pursuing.

Email can get long when "co-parenting" and phone doesn't always do the job. IDK, because I'm dim right now?? Kids are #1 and want to communicate observations, pros, cons of the kids' stuff.


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If you are up for a f2f talk, then by all means do it...

If you are very clear, concise, and focused on your kids during the conversation, and your intention is NOT pursuing... then that's what it is...

how your W takes it, will be up to her...

Just be sure your intention is talk for the sake of the kids and not talk about showing how you're such a great dad and a great catch for her to R with...

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Yep, really does come down to intention. I plan to keep my no talk about R going..two months+ now. Holy cow, she's calling as I type this. Will not answer, lol. That's a nice laugh:)


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WAW left long message about pediatrician visit with D8 allergy test. No biggie, dust mites. Long winded explanation and said if I want to chat about it to call. (I didn't) as she left more than enough info.

Have the kids from 5-9 tonight. Thinking of what to do..dinner, maybe swim/playgound. Take what I can get. Sometimes a challenge with the 4 of them to pick age-appropriate stuff for all-10,8,5,3 yrs. of age.

Will continue to monitor waw's changed in-person behavior without hanging arounf too long when picking up kids.

Read above posts all...any more insights??


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Took the kids to see Harry Potter (good), dinner, then playground.

When picking up th kids, WAW was again very nice, exchanged some invoices, told her the tire looked low on the minivan and she said "thanks for seeing that."

She said if I was going to keep them longer tonight, to call her dad's cell phone...as a reminder, the in-laws have been living with her since Feb. I said, "is your phone broke." (because she just chaged carriers & phone.) W: "No, I'll be out."

Didn't come across boastful, just matter of fact.

When dropping them off, there was a high-end car in their driveway, which must have been one of her new "friends." Girls night out I suppose.

Nothing major, continued civil interaction in person. Which, as mentioned, is a major change this past month instead of the venom waw had over spring.


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M: 12
T: 13
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Stopped at the D's soccer camp again this a.m. Called W and left a voicemail offering to drive them home after. She left vmail back stating she was planning on picking them up and they were headed somewhere else afterward and thanked me for offering.

D8 called later from w's cell phone saying:
"Just calling you daddy to say I love you and I hope you have a great afternoon. I miss you and love you very much, D8"

Put a huge smile on my face. I think I can ride on that high for awhile.


Me: 38
W: 34
D:10,8,5
S: 3
M: 12
T: 13
Bomb:2/1/11
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WAW Filed: 4/1/11
MC: 3/11-5/11
Pre-trial: 8/30/11
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