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Hello,
here is my story.


I am 35 year old, my wife is 31 and we have 9 year old daughter.
My wife's parents are rich and influential persons in our country.
They helped us a lot with finances and with cares for our child.
They are kind and generous people.
I would say that I was a minion of fortune.
During my marriage I wasn't paying enough attention to my family. I didn't realize how much effort and work having a family takes.
My wife was telling me that she didn't feel as a loved woman.
During the years she fought for our happiness.
Alas I was busy with myself, with my activities/ priorities.
We had many fights and arguments. I even pushed her few times while trying to get out of the flat in order to calm down outside. There's many more to narrate but I will stop here.

In the end of 2010 I got that my wife has EA with with an older married guy. We separated for 6 months. During the separation I made a lot of mistakes. We continued our physical relationship but it was not enough. She tried to reconcile and get back in her life despite her feelings toward the OM, but I was a fool. I wanted all without giving anything. I wanted excuses and love which I didn't deserve.

In June 2011 the EA turned into PA which continued very short time. My wife was devastated. She was lied and disillusioned for second time in her life.

It is important to know that I am her first love and she is also my first beloved. She was 15 and I was 20 when we started dating. 5 years later we got married. One year later our daughter was born. As I said our marriage was full of arguments and fights. We were young and inexperienced, especially I. Our home, furniture and car were given by her parents. We never struggle for anything apart of bringing up our daughter with a lot of help by our parents.
All we wanted we could get it without much efforts.


After the end of her affair in August she called me and we gradually started our reconciliation. She told me a lot about the OM but I will skip this part. In short his jealousy and manipulation have insulted her and brought her back to me.
I tried with unconditional love to win her love again, but I wasn't consistent enough because I was confused with a lot of materials which I had read, i.e. Stop your Divorce by H.McDonald. I was switching my behavior between unconditional love to indifference toward her and vice versa. I tried to manipulate her in order to accelerate our recon. Big mistake.
I confused her a lot.
In Feb 2012 she told me that she has no feelings and didn't want to give me any hopes.
We continued to play this game 1-2 months. In April 2012 I asked her to go to marriage counseling or getting a divorce.
In other words I wanted to work towards recon or towards divorce and starting new life without playing anymore. I cannot forgive myself that mistake.
Given that ultimatum she chose getting divorce. I was impatient and stupid. I tried to stop the divorce but she was collected lots of power and determination because her mother supported her decision.
Her brother and father were on my side but they weren't very steady in their position.

So since May 2012 I am divorced and alone.

During the recon (since Sep 2011 to May 2012) I started many activities with my girl. I take her to English, tennis and swimming lessons. We are together during the weekends.

After the Divorce Day there were some LC days. After that we started sending each other music links from youtube. Gradually our relations improved. We had arguments and I insulted her a bit.

I think the real improvement began around 3th June. On that date was my birthday. She accepted my invitation and we celebrated in a restaurant with a few friends. She gave me two Nike t-shirts and sport socks exactly the same gift in the same colors as the previous year.
After the birthday she asked me to wake up them in he morning during the weekends. So I was doing this and later in the morning I was taking the girl and we started our usual sport and English lessons.
My ex began to join us at lunch and dinner. We ate out two weekends in a row Last week we watched movie at cinema. While watching we were holding our hands.

In June she and our daughter set off to the seaside. 1-2 weeks ago she had invited me to join them. She has a flat at the seaside and we are going to share one room, I hope. I remember she asked me several times if I hadn't made up my mind. We phoned each other many times a day.

The seaside vacation went well. Three of us spent quality time. We watched TV in my bed together. My ex cuddled to my body, we were very close. We had a talk about her impossibility to answer to my caresses and I answered that I don't expect her to do that so soon after the divorce and that being so close is a big step for us.

2 weeks ago before setting off for a business trip I bought her a bucket of sunflowers and I left it in front of her front door, because she didn't answer my phone calls.

It was great mistake. She called me half an hour later and said "We are not a couple. Why do you do those things. You frighten me. We talked about this many times and you continue doing this things."
I answered that I still loved her and wanted to find the way to each others hearts.
A bit later she again called me "I cannot answer to your feeling and it is killing me".
I didn't get well which is killing her - my actions or her inability to answer my feelings.

I phoned her at 10.30 pm and she didn't answer.

After the business trip I went to the seaside and took the care for our girl from my ex's parents. They went back home and I and my girl spend 2 great weeks together. We are staying in their flat. During our holiday her mother called us 2-3 times a day. But her voice is different. She rarely called me by my pet name. She got distant and shows indifference and annoyance when I call her.

Today the parents of my ex are arriving and our girls will spend 1 more week at the seaside. Next weekend my ex will come to the flat.
I think I should propose her traveling together with my car.

I read the threads of LoveNoMatterWhat and decided to follow some rules:

PRAY FOR MY MARRIAGE
1. Actions speak louder than words
2. Nothing is more important than the family
3. Nothing great in life comes without sacrifice
4. I need to remember to watch what she does not what she says
5. Keep doing more of what works and less of what doesn't
6. Do not miss any special event of my daughter
7. Use any possible moment to spend quality time with them
8. Do not tell her "I love you, "I miss you" at this stage.
9. Always answer her calls
10. Being needy is not attractive



I am here for support and encouragement.
Any advice will be appreciated.
Any recon story will give me hope.

Do you think I ruined my chances?

I know I am a sinner and God wants to humble me.
My wife gave my love, child, shelter, she gave me forgiveness. I know I deserve my destiny.

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There are some mistakes with the dates and years. Sorry for that.
I was 20 and she was 16 when started dating.
We watched movie in cinema 4-5 weeks ago.

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Today I delivered to her a shipment from amazon - toothpastes.
She was distant and it seems she wants only having business relationship.

I asked her whether I did something wrong and why she was acting like that. She answered "So-so" meaning that part of the fault is mine. But she denied to share what is the reason for her behavior.
Later I called her up.
Me - "I think we should improve our communication. It is not fair saying that I did something wrong and not telling me what exactly I did"
She - "Do not manipulate me. I think I treat you well. When I'm willing to speak I will."

I'll try not to disturb her anymore.

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Welcome to the forum.

You might want to repost this on the newcomers board.

I see you have more posts in moderation right now.

Please have patience that they will surface to the board.

Have you read Divorce Remedy?

I would suggest you start there.

Also check out the 37 rules.

As far as HOPE goes I think you can always have HOPE but not EXPECTATIONS.

Keep reading, learning and posting.
There is so much you need to learn.


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Thank you Cadet.

I think the 37 rules are dedicated for the pre-divorced stage.
I tried them and overacted with my 180 theatre play.

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She arrived at the seaside yesterday.
Today I called her and she was calm and we talked for 7 minutes.
I read the communication is most important.
I send her 2-3 emails a day and we phone 2-3 times. She doesn't look annoyed by my attention.

I know the way to her heart will be long.

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Today we exchanged youtube music links.
We phoned and talked about the kid, the music etcetera.
She told me that she will call me later after watching the video clip which I sent her.

I need some exercises to become more entertaining and be better companion.

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Sounds like things are positive. Be careful not to push or pursue.

Stay with the friend path and at the very least, that should help the both of you do a better job raising your D, regardless of what the future brings otherwise.

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Originally Posted By: Nukem
I need some exercises to become more entertaining and be better companion.

Maybe you can break this down in to smaller more goal oriented ideas.

Then it is something you can work on either for her or your next relationship.


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Yesterday they arrived. After work I went at their house and played with my daughter. My ex wasn't there.
When she got home she offered me to have dinner with them.
I ate just one apple and stayed with them in the kitchen while they were eating. I washed the dishes.
We chit chatted a bit. We discussed the health issues of our girl and I take the responsibility to take her to the doctor next day.
They saw me off to my car which was parked out of the yard.
My daughter liked my new company car.
When they closed the portal I heart my ex saying me "Bye + my pet mane"

Today in the morning we phoned to discuss to which doctor I should take the girl.
Later she called and asked me to call one guy from the insurance company to help her in registering some damages on her car.
I didn't find his number and she registered just one damage.
At the evening I found the number and gave it to her. Tomorrow she will register the second damage. She denied my offer to do it for her.

I took the girl at 17h and we visited the doctor.
We got back at the house and played.
My ex got home at 21h.
We again had dinner together, and I washed the dishes.
They saw me off and my ex was waving bye for long.
I think she used my pet name one time during the evening but I am not sure.

It looks like she is getting warmer.
I prayed all day long and cried a bit while driving back home.

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