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"I was sad and ps$$ed off for a while, and went anyway,"

FINALLY an emotional reaction. Now why do you think you were upset?


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I really wanted to walk with her, spend time with her, had looked forward to it. She'd also not been definitive on going to the movie this morning, and when she backed out of the walk, I felt it was yet another chance to be together going down the drain.

W and d15 spent all morning together, had walked to town for a haircut and shopping. I felt like I was not seeing much of my daughter at all, being shortchanged.

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"I really wanted to walk with her, spend time with her, had looked forward to it. She'd also not been definitive on going to the movie this morning, and when she backed out of the walk, I felt it was yet another chance to be together going down the drain."

I don't know if you can see how much of your relationship with your D is similar to your relationship with your W. You get "turned down" (which your D was perfectly in her right to do) and instead of understanding and adapting, you got angry and sulked not saying anything.

"W and d15 spent all morning together, had walked to town for a haircut and shopping. I felt like I was not seeing much of my daughter at all, being shortchanged."

THAT is up to you to change. You've already isolated yourself from W so now it's like you're seeing your D as a toy that you need to share with a kid whom you don't like.

You've got to get over this before you lose touch with your D in general.


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The only thing I wanted to add on the topic of not saying anything to your W is that silence is seen as your consent.

Every time your daughter sees you not answering, objecting, or speaking up to her mother........it shows her you agree with whatever Mother said. So your silence is saying a lot.


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Originally Posted By: LuckyLuke
I like PM's advice to do the right thing now - the thinking or feeling what that is keeps me on track. I think the next thing is to ask them to properly latch the windows - we need to stop the drafts in this old house, and they have an annoying habit of only half latching them (and yes, I know this is a completely reasonable request that I have the right to make).

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Good.

Don't forget the part about slaying your dragon. (To be clear, that is standing up to your W. Not standing up to her as in picking a fight for the sake of creating a conflict, just standing your ground when applicable and setting new, healthy boundaries on what is permissible treatment of you ad behavior towards you...AKA, NOT avoiding conflict smile.)

You can do it! And I think once you start, it will empower you and become contagious. Just get that first one out of the way!

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Just asked wife to properly latch windows. She annoyedly responded that it doesn't much tighten the window upstairs, which is true, but I said that it does downstairs and that not doing so is just energy out the window otherwise.

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And what did she say after that?


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Nothing, I walked away, the interaction being finished.


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You do know that she probably didn't 'listen'. Have you ever read any books on communication with your spouse?


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I think she did listen a bit, as she got annoyed. Yes, I've read Crucial Conversations... , which talks about communicating with one's spouse. As I recall, it seemed overly complicated. I've also read the Power of a Positive No, which was simpler.

Can you recommend something?


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