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Not alimony but child support...


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Why would you initiate that type of conversation?


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Because it is something that is coming up just around the corner. We can't go on without dealing with any of these. If she can't handle dealing with practical things, that's too bad. And I explained to her in freaking little detail that I'm not asking her for any money. B/c I know she doesn't have money to pay for child support. In Finland you get public alimony if another one can't pay for it. And that would take a load off her shoulders regarding money issues.


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T:14 M:11
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Because it is something that is coming up just around the corner. We can't go on without dealing with any of these


I get it, I would just let her be the one to initiate it and take the lead especially if you are still standing and don't want a D. It could be considered as pressure.


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Why would she initiate a convo about child support when she is the one who has to pay them?

Anyways...I checked the public child support system and they actually would take the money from her anyway even if she couldn't afford it. So I informed her about it and told her that I don't want to put her in a bad spot financially. B/c it wouldn't be fair to her in the end if she would lose even more money because of this.

I know that she is struggling financially. She's been getting letters from (couldn't find a word for it in English) an office that collects tax depts and court ordered depts. And that is NOT a good sign.


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T:14 M:11
Separation:sep. 1 2017
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Why would she initiate a convo about child support when she is the one who has to pay them?


Isn't that part of the D process and something your L etc. would work through? You initiated it, she got mad, nothing was accomplished so what's the point?

I never initiated 1 conversation about the D process with my W unless she brought it up.


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Because we don't have L's. It's more common in Finland not to have Ls than to have them. Don't know why but that's the way it is.


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Ok makes sense. So you bring it up, she doesn't want to talk about it and gets mad/changes the conversation. What forces her to discuss it or come to an agreement?


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Nothing forces her. If she doesn't want to agree to anything and the child welfare officer can't come to a solution that both settle for...then we get Ls and go to court.


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So why wouldn't you just wait to have this conversation with the child welfare officer?


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M: 46, W: 45. D: 10. D: 8 (CUR)
Bomb Dropped: 5/28/2017
Separation Date: 6/17/2017
Divorce Filed: 2/7/2018
Divorce Final: 4/12/2018
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