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Reading DB book and I came upon this header:

Focusing on the past is UNNECESSARY

I know the topic is SBT but I feel that the statement above can be expanded for a lot of my issues and my journey of seeking closure.

Second, this sentence hits home with me and my provider:

One shouldn't take too many painkillers. The pain may subside, but the actual illness is still there, only masked by the drug (experience with the provider)

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2/18-W meets OM2
4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
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Had some healthy communication last night:

-W said she'd like to make some trail mix for me and my friends for the rafting trip this Saturday...I said "OK. The friends will like that."

- She then asked me about my second therapy. She was wondering why I was having a phone appointment. I was very vague and told her it's to address the issues that led to my passive-aggressive behavior due to NGS. She went into her bedroom and came out 5 minutes later talking about one of my symptoms (I relate to women more than I do men). I didn't lean either way and just acknowledged her conversation.

I don't know what's going on, but it seems like she's...doing something. What it is I really don't know.


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Just curious, have there been any WAW success stories? It seems like I'm making the climb but from reading what others are saying, there are failures. Though the circumstances are not like the other folks (moving out, etc.), I'm still concerned. I'm working on fixing myself and it does seem like I'm getting some kind of support from W, even I don't explicitly ask for it.


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There is a whole forum on "piecing" which is people who are attempting to reconcile with their WSs. There are a number of people on here who post regularly who have reconciled. However, the vast majority do not reconcile. That's just a fact.

Keep focusing on yourself.


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Originally Posted by Davide
However, the vast majority do not reconcile.


Broken. I can't keep going through this. I messed up but this is beyond getting punished. This is torture.

Originally Posted by Davide

Keep focusing on yourself.


What other choice do I have?


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She doesn't want me to leave. She doesn't want me to move out. What could she want from this?


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5/18-“Romance ends"
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I think when everyone first joins the board they have hope but as time passes the LBS realizes that an opportunity for recon won't happen for several years. The WW or WAW has to go through their own crisis for that happen and that crisis is different for everyone. It is only after both parties go through their crisis when recon can begin. If that doesn't happen and recon is attempted you will be right back in the same situation.


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Originally Posted by Joseph9
I think when everyone first joins the board they have hope but as time passes the LBS realizes that an opportunity for recon won't happen for several years. The WW or WAW has to go through their own crisis for that happen and that crisis is different for everyone. It is only after both parties go through their crisis when recon can begin. If that doesn't happen and recon is attempted you will be right back in the same situation.


Years?

Edit: Thank God for this forum and you all. I feel like I can complain and express my feelings without consequence. This is helping. Thank you all as well.

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It depends on the ww or waw but generally yes and more than likely divorce will happen. While the theme of the sitches here are the same the spouses and their level of being done or out the door is the one difference.


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Originally Posted by Joseph9
It depends on the ww or waw but generally yes and more than likely divorce will happen. While the theme of the sitches here are the same the spouses and their level of being done or out the door is the one difference.


That's the maddening part. I don't think she knows what she wants. She just wants as stable environment for D4 as possible. I can work on my relationship with D4 but I can't BS my way and pretending that I'm keeping it together for just D4 while she frolics around with OM. I can't.

I just need to keep my mouth shut on what is seeming becoming a fantasy of an R. GAL, health, etc. and suppress my biological needs. Please tell me how this is good for me? When I want my biological needs to be met and I practically CAN'T.

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7/18-DB start
7/18-IHS Ends
4/19-WW moves out
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