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When I read this I feel like giving up. I don't want to because I feel like I owe it to my children to fight to the bitter end and the whole 'don't believe a word they say' statement.

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That’s why the theme is to focus on yourself......the quicker you can make the shift the faster you will heal. If you put in the work you will start to see small shifts over time. IMO for your spouse to return they have to realize and learn that you are their best option but that won’t happen until the experience another relationship and more than likely you will have to as well.


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Originally Posted by Davide

Keep focusing on yourself.


What other choice do I have?
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You don't. I am coming to this realisation. I have forgotten myself too in all of this. You need to get yourself back I think. Focus on yourself and the kids. Forget the W.

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The best advice I can give you all is to get in the gym and lift a ton of weights, eat healthy and transform yourself into an azz kicking machine. This will increase your testosterone and in the process your confidence will soar. Get jacked and be a man!


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Originally Posted by Joseph9
That’s why the theme is to focus on yourself......the quicker you can make the shift the faster you will heal. If you put in the work you will start to see small shifts over time. IMO for your spouse to return they have to realize and learn that you are their best option but that won’t happen until the experience another relationship and more than likely you will have to as well.


Like I need to experience an OW?


1/6/18-BD OM1
2/18-W meets OM2
4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
7/18-IHS Ends
4/19-WW moves out
3/21-D filed

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Not while you are still married.........but if it comes to D after. If it is to happen after D you will have prob experienced ow as she has exp om and then after that happens you could come together to form a new relationship provided your relationships with these other people didn’t work out....then essentially you could be aligned on the same path.


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I need to step back from this place for a bit. A day or two. This place helps, but it's not conducive to GAL. I'm getting obsessed and trying to analyze EVERYTHING.

On it goes...


1/6/18-BD OM1
2/18-W meets OM2
4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
7/18-IHS Ends
4/19-WW moves out
3/21-D filed

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There is little you can do early on to make a difference with your w but their is a lot you can do to mess it up. You really have to start focusing on yourself and stop analyzing her. You will drive yourself crazy.....


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Originally Posted by Joseph9
There is little you can do early on to make a difference with your w but their is a lot you can do to mess it up. You really have to start focusing on yourself and stop analyzing her. You will drive yourself crazy.....


I am done messing it up. I have been doing it for almost 7 months. Chasing, hinting, etc. It does not rightfully work and she knows that. I'm on coast mode now.

By the way, my results came back clean. Bullet dodged.

My W on the other hand...contracted HPV 16.

Last edited by pain18; 08/06/18 10:33 PM.

1/6/18-BD OM1
2/18-W meets OM2
4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
7/18-IHS Ends
4/19-WW moves out
3/21-D filed

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Not all HPV strains are life long only some of them., HPV16 is a wart virus and can clear.

Glad you are clean, lesson learned move on. I have no issue with prostitution itself, it has its place, but for sexual release not for self esteem. (Sex trafficking etc is not ok with me at all)

Can you get a new M with W. Yes eventually it is possible.

But only if you work on you. That is very essential.

Your goals and aims are very well constructed indeed. It's an excellent start.

I think you need to address your values in this area. And define for yourself your own boundaries and why you want those values.

This is a spiritual matter and decisions to meet your own goals means addressing this. I am not saying religious dogma but that which is deep and meaningful. I think you require spiritual counselling.

O has important things to say, your life lacks strong male role models. So being involved with older male role models in your life is quite key to derive strong values.

You faced the worst, now work towards the best.

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Last edited by Vanilla; 08/07/18 12:25 AM.

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