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I never had to figure out who I am. I always was whatever people needed me to be. Except that then what they needed me to be changed, and it changed into needing me to be me rather than needing me to be what I thought they needed. NMMNG.

I look at these lists of strengths and values and I see mostly just a lot of stuff that I don't even know where to begin.


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Ok, I can see why that would make you feel bad.

Now what are you going do with that knowledge?


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How do I maintain a positive attitude when it's this bleak? When she clearly has figured out something that makes it almost impossible for her to see me in a positive light ever again?


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Originally Posted by Steve85
Now what are you going do with that knowledge?


That's the thing. I'm here to figure that out, waiting for people to tell me what to do.


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Anyway how do I tell her any of this? All of the realizations? To validate what she said MONTHS ago about her concerns that our relationship was dysfunctional because of who I was and how difficult that would be to change. If it's this far gone, why am I doing anything to fix it?


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Anyway how do I tell her any of this? All of the realizations? To validate what she said MONTHS ago about her concerns that our relationship was dysfunctional because of who I was and how difficult that would be to change. If it's this far gone, why am I doing anything to fix it?


You don't tell her. You show her. Action, not words.


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How do you go from being completely dependent, then even more desperate after having had your heart trampled on, to being hopeless after being kicked out of the relationship that made life worth living... to all of a sudden being so cool that you don't give a hoot what people think of your shirts?

What actions show that? Skydiving and pottery classes? Alone. With almost no joy. Man wasn't made to be alone.


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Meanwhile she's having a blast differentiating on her own. New man, new school, new life. No baggage. Just kicked me to the curb.


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GAL. 180s. Detachment. Being the best burned you can be.

This means you are busy. With and without other people. Why not skydive alone? Maybe you'll meet some new friends. Find your inner joy! Happiness starts within. Be confident. Be pleased with your life. Be present. Be upbeat.

Do all this for you! And only you.

Believe it or your W will notice. There is a good chance it will intrigue her. And she'll start sniffing around.

She constantly tells you she wants to feel safe. I'm not a betting man but I bet if you show her how happy you are without her she will suddenly feel safe around her.

WASs don't feel safe when smothered. If she feels vulnerable (IE suddenly you are less pushy and always around) she will realize that she DID feel safe with you.


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I really just can't fathom how things went from feeling better than ever on Saturday, to today when I'm hitting a new low.


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