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Glad to hear things are going well Steve! One of my daughters used to do a lot of that "unsaid expectations" stuff when she was a teen. She did grow out of it though so I think it's a phase a lot of them go through. My S is 15 now and I've got to say he's pretty darned polite and thoughtful for being a teen. Our big struggle is getting him to do his homework, he has an annoying habit of saying it's done but then not turning it in (and having a thousand excuses why). He's ADD so that doesn't help with that at all.

I am not happy about the prospect of being an empty nester soon. I love my kids to pieces and when each D moved out it was like a part of me was ripped away. I can't believe my S will be gone soon too. I mean it'll be a couple more years but that is going to pass too quickly.


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That is where we are too! We know she has 3 more years of HS and she already wants to go away for school. She has always had an independent streak (gee, where did she get that?!?), and we are trying to savor every moment.

3 years from now will be very hard.......


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Hey guys, remember when we had that age...the world was different, I think it was a safer environment. Now, with instant communication, mass adiction games and kardashian´s hair styles... we are doomed as civilization...:-(

Feel grateful to have a face to face dialogue with our kids.


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Not hard at all. My D19 is heading back to college 777 miles away. She will take a one way flight alone and we will ship her stuff. This was her idea.
It is her second year and last year turned out without a hitch. As long as she is happy and doing well I am happy for her.

She will return Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's what they are supposed to do. She is following her dreams.

What is hard is when you see your S23 take another barback job because his enabling mother has coddled him his whole life and you want him to get some marketable skills. This is hard.


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Originally Posted by RR17
Not hard at all. My D19 is heading back to college 777 miles away. She will take a one way flight alone and we will ship her stuff. This was her idea.
It is her second year and last year turned out without a hitch. As long as she is happy and doing well I am happy for her.

She will return Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's what they are supposed to do. She is following her dreams.

What is hard is when you see your S23 take another barback job because his enabling mother has coddled him his whole life and you want him to get some marketable skills. This is hard.


yes but you still have the 15 year-old at home. My D will be first, and last kid to leave the home. I am dreading it.


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I want to share that your post has planted a seed.

I've decided to write D19 a letter to open after she leaves telling her just how proud I am of all the risk and accomplishments she has achieved. No expectations.

I'm debating if I should add that my father never really told me these things and how I imagine that his F probably never did either.


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That is awesome RR!! I think I will plan to do this as well.

I love my D so much. Just typing that made this tough old codger tear up.


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lol, So you inspired me which in turn inspired you. That's great!

Remember, you must love in a way that the other person feel free.


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Glad things are still going well for you Steve. We just took my S18 to college, and I know it was harder for me than it was for him!

AS, we had similar problems with D16. She's very bright, but just wouldn't do her homework, lied to me about it, ended up failing a class and having to take summer school. As I realized how badly she was doing in school, I started logging into PowerSchool to see every assignment and every grade online. Taking away privileges and phone made for a trying time, but in the end she only failed one class instead of four. Even after all that, though, it kills me that she's leaving in only two years.


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Just a quick update, you might have noticed I wasn't active this weekend. Couple of things:

First, it is fall so my outdoor time goes up (though one of my 180s in my sitch is to not spend so much time at the hunting property, something I've already instituted in late summer).

Second, some upheaval going on in my personal life right now. Don't want to get into details but for those of you that are praying folks, please keep my family in your prayers. Nothing unusual, just typical life stuff, but if you can just mention my family in your prayers I'd appreciate it.

The good news is that my MR has never been more solid. I feel so secure in that where just a year ago it was a major weakness. I thank this forum for a lot of that, so thank you!

I'll try to stay as active as I can. I care about all of you and your sitches and will continue to pray for all of you.

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