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The common saying on here comes to mind "Believe only 50% of what they say".


I thought it was believe nothing of what they say and only 50% of what they do.


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Trust is formed when two people have mutual respect for each other as human beings.

Trust is fundamental when it comes to believing.

Trust is not found in our waw/ww's, they have completely disregarded this concept, and thus there can be no respect either.


Until you regain respect, through your ACTIONS, you won't be able to TRUST any of your former partners WORDS.

So.... Believe nothing they say, and for now, only half of what they show you........


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The common saying on here comes to mind "Believe only 50% of what they say".


I thought it was believe nothing of what they say and only 50% of what they do.


Yes, this is correct. Nothing that comes out the walkaways mouth is to be believed.


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I am true to believing nothing she is saying, and barely anything she is doing.


These WWs are very sneaky. This fog and MLC with A combo is a deadly combo!

have a great day fellas! smile

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Mixed that one up nicely didn't I lol. In any case you get what I meant, just because she seems desperate for a D doesn't mean she actually is.


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Update:

I found concrete evidence that WW has been lying to me (and kids) about where she has been going almost every weekend - and that it indeed is the OMs house.

Question for vets: Does this change anything for me? Before it was pretty easy for me to ignore her in our house and just play/enjoy my kids but now that I am 100 percent sure she is not only lying but infidelity is involved it is hard for me to not grit my teeth every time I see her. I really would be happier at this point with her out of the house.

Question #2: Can this be used at all in any way legally during the D process? For example, showing pattern of lying to me and kids and infidelity - would that help my case on having to pay Alimony? I know courts dont seem to care about infidelity regarding child custody though.

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Update:

I found concrete evidence that WW has been lying to me (and kids) about where she has been going almost every weekend - and that it indeed is the OMs house.

Question for vets: Does this change anything for me? Before it was pretty easy for me to ignore her in our house and just play/enjoy my kids but now that I am 100 percent sure she is not only lying but infidelity is involved it is hard for me to not grit my teeth every time I see her. I really would be happier at this point with her out of the house.

Question #2: Can this be used at all in any way legally during the D process? For example, showing pattern of lying to me and kids and infidelity - would that help my case on having to pay Alimony? I know courts dont seem to care about infidelity regarding child custody though.


I knew where she was going or is going most of the time. It has been hard to deal with her in the house during these situations. Therefore, I understand gritting your teeth. Detaching is hard. I hope it is easier to detach once she is out of the house and I can work on myself more. I hope you can get a temporary moving out situation for her like I was successful as shown below:

Might depend on your state and at-fault or no-fault guidelines. Ohio is a no-fault state. Therefore, a divorce or a legal separation here would allow both spouses to stay in the house until the end. You can request exclusive rights to the house during the proceedings that will remove the other but here in Ohio, it has to be something such as abusive towards the spouse or children, or some other type of emotional things. The L I talked to said that most spouses that earn less would move out during a divorce proceeding to get the free spousal support that is not counted towards the spousal support received after the divorce. That is in Ohio and local county thing. That varies from county to county here.

I suggested just yesterday the dissolution of marriage or a divorce. She chose dissolution of marriage. After calming down, she came and talked to me and we decided on her temporarily moving out to see where things go from there.

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I suggested just yesterday the dissolution of marriage or a divorce. She chose dissolution of marriage. After calming down, she came and talked to me and we decided on her temporarily moving out to see where things go from there.



Thanks Anthony for sharing. Sorry you are in this predicament as well. Could you explain the diff between dissolution and divorce? In NYS (which is no fault as well) it seems to mean the same thing.

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Dissolution of marriage is faster and cheaper than divorce. However, it requires both to agree on everything to include child support, spousal support, assets, custody, parenting plans, etc. If 100% agreement can't be done, then divorce with expensive L are the next step. Oh and a dissolution can be usually done without L at all if there is 100% agreement. My W was adamant that the kids stay in the home and in their rooms at all costs. Since she works part time, she would never qualify for a refi on the home. Therefore, I would get the house and in essence the children.

Keep in mind, my hope is that she moves out and finds her self and changes to a better person as I make my changes as well to become a man a fool would want to leave. Then to reconcile. That is my hope. We shall see. It [censored] when we do not control that at all.

However, I didn't control the falling in love and getting married. That was a mutual thing. THat is what i have to remember. I did not make her fall in love with me. I did not force her to marry me. I need to become that guy again.

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Anthony - thanks - that sounds like mediation to me. That is what my WW wants.

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