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Thank you I need someone once in awhile telling me I’m doing ok . I think what is hard for me the most is when we are all doing things together I feel ok . Kids happy , H happy I’m genuinely happy .When I’m alone or have time for myself I feel this pull of “ I could just end this marriage , I didn’t deserve any of this and eventually be ok alone “. It’s sad sometimes at night H will be sleeping and I’m awake just up . He looks so peaceful like his world is coming together and I’m over there just thinking how am I going to do this the rest of my life . Almost as if I’m the one living the double life . Eventually I calm myself and just have a little faith that in time maybe I will feel better.

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Sometimes the words just fly out

Had a few good days at home and out and about . Enjoyed an evening with one of the kids alone . My GAL is my kids and when I’m older will be my grandkids . Went to ride some roller coasters . Had a ton of 1:1 fun .

My struggle this week could be validating but not approving . Could use some advice .

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H : I’m really just happy and content . I like how I can talk to you now and how close I feel to you with communication .

Me: I was not and will not be close with someone or listen to them while they were cheating . That was your choice not to be close to your W.

Yes it just flew out my mouth ! It wasn’t a mean tone or anything like that . Just was very direct almost like an unspoken boundary I was stating . H just shook his head and kinda took it .

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Caligirl,

Love the roller coasters! The wilder the better... Except I usually can't do them anymore. A health incident in my 20s left me with motion sickness issues. I could ride maybe one or two, but will be left with a migraine for the next couple of days straight.

Doctors never did figure out what caused it. I was left without much balance for about 18 months after onset. Had to stop riding bikes and motorcycles for about two years. Ever since ... well ... I take about half my balance from visual or touch cues. I drag a finger along banisters for vertical orientation on stairs!

More seriously -

Sometimes a truth dart is just that. Maybe it was the right time and needed.

It WAS an unspoken boundary. Now it is spoken and clear and he knows exactly where it is. It may not have followed the formula "when you" "I feel" but the "if you" and "I will" following is pretty clear.

I think this can be combined with validating. And your boundary statement was not of a form condemning him or disapproving of him per say... It was about YOU

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DB1 4/23, rescinded 5/23
DB2 6/23 ("I can't do this, I Love HIM")
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Sometimes, they need a truth dart to let them know how you feel. He should be aware of the fact that you aren't going to sweep the entire incident under the rug. You can't sweep something like this away. At some point, everything will need to be discussed and out in the open if you and your h are going to have a good foundation to rebuild your marriage on, i.e., especially the trust factor.

Don't beat yourself up. Truth darts can be healthy. You stated your thoughts, he knows what you think and now he needs time to digest what you have stated.

Keep moving forward. You are doing great. Reconnecting/reconciling is difficult when there has been a huge elephant in the room. Be gentle with yourself.


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I do not really know what else even needs to be talked about with H . I have a good idea of where his head was at and what went on . I also openly call BS if he even tries to shift blame in the slightest no wiggle room . In last few weeks there definitely is a noticeable change when he speaks . That confusion clearing up and taking responsibility. He has a more protective tone I would say . More he thinks about how I would feel before himself . I don’t think I have seen that in well over a decade . I did express some concern to him that I do not feel he knows how to manage a normal relationship that doesn’t have super highs and very low lows . He seeks these relationships whether friends or AP because he thrives off of the chaos . It is very noticeable to him that I don’t get on that rollercoaster over the last 4-5 years and just stay my pace . H is well aware I’m not jumping back on the rollercoaster ever again . The one topic that he has been talking about with his counselor and a lot more now with me is the guilt . The feeling he would have leaving and running to AP after spending days at home happy . How he would walk around with knots in his stomach . The relief he feels not living like that and just feeling whole again , peace. Wasn’t a truth dart but I do remind him that there was another person (me) who was on the receiving end of the fall out when he would run off and that I got very strong with just doing for me and the children . It’s not easy to trust. Sometimes when I speak to him it is just hard . I can see even if my words are in a kind tone the words just hurt . The reality of what he did and pain he caused . I can see and hear him just breathe and usually he looks like he is about to ball crying . Makes it hard for someone who has always had this soft side (me) to communicate . He doesn’t tell me not to talk quite the opposite it still goes against my grain.

On a lighter note I agreed to go away for a long weekend with H . He planned it . Is really just excited to spend some away time with me . I agreed to go and just have some fun snow tubing and hanging in a cabin he booked .

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Enjoy the time away. The change of scenery will be good for both of you.


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Things for last few weeks have been rather calm . Long weekend away was relaxing and a bit of fun rolled in . I continue to just maintain my course I refused to talk R while away. H did try to get me to open up a bit last week. Sent a long message about how he loves me and is very grateful I didn’t boot him . He did mention how I don’t speak about much . Did respond nicely to his kind words but did throw a truth dart about how I will never get the entire truth but I do not plan on loathing him the rest of my life . I did put a solid boundary of I never expect to put in this position again . Left it there .

It’s been calm . Having an active and available H whos not on the run . He declines all invites with his friends and seems to fill that time doing things alone with me . I offered to go a few times . H said no he’s enjoying just being alone with me and the kids . Odd transformation continues…..

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Just popping in to vent some internal thoughts .

Last 2 weeks or so I have had these over whelming feelings of not wanting to be M anymore . Not for lack of effort of H. More these deep thoughts of I deserve better than these last few years . I don’t want a M with someone who has or had these capabilities. The years of gaslighting I tolerated . To the point I ignored an A he was having all the while knowing . He walked around arrogantly .

I know his tune has changed significantly. The more I’m here the longer these feelings of just utter betrayal get worse .

We have made steps towards repair . H big strides . I don’t even like him most days and the thoughts of the things in that letter I received from his A partner are not letting up last few weeks . Trying to hang in here but this is tough.

I know it takes time but time seems to not be helping

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Caligirl,

What you are feeling is very, very normal. You've dealt with so much over the years and now that he's wanting to return to the marriage has you second guessing what you want to do. Take all the time in the world to figure out what you want. Maybe make a pro and con listing of whether to stay in the marriage. Sometimes when we write down the pros and cons, things become much clearer.

Maybe you both need a total break from the situation. Any way that you can take a little vacation and just be on your own to think about everything without interruptions?

Hang in there!


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Originally Posted by Caligirl
Last 2 weeks or so I have had these overwhelming feelings of not wanting to be M anymore . Not for lack of effort of H. More these deep thoughts of I deserve better than these last few years .
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I know his tune has changed significantly. The more I’m here the longer these feelings of just utter betrayal get worse .

It FEELS LIKE you have finally surfaced from being underwater, holding your breath, just surviving, not alowing yourself to feel and think for a while in order to survive...and now are looking around at the devastation with clear(er) eyes and feet on solid(er) ground.

Originally Posted by Caligirl
I don’t even like him most days and the thoughts of the things in that letter I received from his A partner are not letting up last few weeks.

I don't know how to fix it, but I do know the occurances diminish eventually.

All those things.

      She said

      I read when snooping

little bits of shrapnel

ricocheting through my heart and soul

ripping and tearing through me ... every time I remember

I know how it feels


I slowly find my peace now

though I still would rather have found it WITH her. Even with the understanding gained here of how hard a road that is.

For ME, and from what i read, perhaps it is somewhat a male form of love, the CHOICE/COMITMENT I made, the i do, was to accept HER, crazy/nuts and all, until the day I died.

Could I have made it until the R was back? Could I give up the peace I gain to re-enter chaos? Honestly I don't know. So I don't judge.

I do think, from reading here and thinking about what it would have taken for me, when you are ready, professional help is needed...to make it over that hump if you so choose.

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D19, D17, S12
ILYBINILWY 3/23
DB1 4/23, rescinded 5/23
DB2 6/23 ("I can't do this, I Love HIM")
Legal Mediation 1-5 & W moves out 8/23 – 3/24
Settlement 5/24, Court 9/11/24 <-, D 9/16/24
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